About 4C.

The 4C Solution was developed by respected leaders in healthcare, technology, and government who sought to tackle the epidemic of healthcare fraud and waste for self-insured employers and government programs.


Chairman, Board of Directors

Governor Tommy G. Thompson

Governor Tommy G. Thompson is the former U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary and four-term Governor of Wisconsin. Today, he remains committed as ever to developing innovative solutions to healthcare challenges facing American families, businesses, communities, states, and the nation as a whole. These efforts focus on improving the use of information technology in hospitals, clinics, and doctors’ offices; promoting healthier lifestyles; strengthening and modernizing Medicare and Medicaid; and expanding the use of medical diplomacy around the world.


Member, Board of Directors

John Snow

John Snow is the former U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and CEO of CSX Corporation. He has served on various corporate and non-profit boards, including Johnson & Johnson, USX, Verizon, Cerberus Capital Management, the University of Virginia Darden School, Johns Hopkins University, and the Business Roundtable.


Member, Board of Directors

Kenneth Lockard

Ken Lockard is Chairman of Lockard Companies, a diversified US based company focused on the delivery of Medical Office and Senior Housing facilities. He believes healthcare is our nation’s most challenging issue. Ken serves on many boards.


Chief Executive Officer

Dave Adams

David Adams is a successful entrepreneur, business operator, and founder of several successful technology-driven companies in the data integration, supply chain, and healthcare industries. Some of these companies include InteliTap, TrenStar, McKesson Medical, Pepsi-Cola, Viewlocity, and i2 Technologies. Prior to joining the civilian workforce, he served as a Naval Aviator for 12 years.


& Chief Operating Officer

Ron Templeton

Ron Templeton is a 25-year veteran of the healthcare industry with deep expertise in the flow of financial, clinical, and claims data between payers, providers, vendors, and employers. Templeton is recognized throughout the industry for bringing novel healthcare technologies and solutions to market. Prior to co-founding 4C, Templeton held positions at Sklar Instruments, SunRX, Student Resources, ITrax, CapMed, Electronic Healthcare Solutions, Dataflow, Inc., Summit Healthcare Solutions, Inc., and Contel Business Systems.

Chief Financial Officer

Clayton Lazenby

Clayton Lazenby is responsible for 4C’s controllership, treasury, and economic strategy and brings over 25 years of experience. Previously, he was CFO of InteliTap, LLC and BridgeGate International where he developed software for SkyMall, The Home Shopping Network, and others. Lazenby has been a Certified Public Accountant for almost 30 years.

Chief Technology Officer

Dr. Robert J. Collins

Dr. Robert J. Collins is responsible for 4C’s product development, engineering, and technical operations. Dr. Collins has a strong record of defining, designing, and implementing innovative software and hardware products in a wide range of industries including healthcare, online advertising, web analytics, golf, and cartoon animation. Prior to 4C, he held senior positions at Patient Safe Solutions, Yahoo!, and Callaway Golf. Dr. Collins received his Master of Science and Doctor of Philosophy degrees in Computer Science from the University of California, Los Angeles.

Chief Analytics Officer

Dr. Kyle Cheek

Dr. Kyle Cheek has served in multiple executive roles in the healthcare industry. His expertise is centered on the application of advanced data analytics to healthcare business domain problems including healthcare informatics, payment integrity analytics, and healthcare information management. He is also the Director of the Center for Information Management Research in the College of Business Administration at the University of Illinois – Chicago. Dr. Cheek received his PhD in Political Economy from The University of Texas at Dallas.

Executive Vice President

Rick Anthony

Rick received his BS degrees in Industrial Relations and Management Marketing from St. Joseph’s University. He brings over 35 years of experience to the board primarily as a benefit consultant to business organizations who are seeking innovative ways to reduce waste in their healthcare spend. He has designed effective compensation and benefit plans for companies to create value for their employees and investors. Rick has spent the past 12 years immersed in innovation, identifying and deploying strategies promoting better health plan costing through transparency. He feels the healthcare industry basically knows where the waste is but also recognizes the huge paradigm shift needed by providers to eliminate the waste.

"Employers can not afford to turn a blind eye to the holes in the system any longer and will, out of the need to survive, employ newer and better technologies to eliminate fraud, waste and abuse while spending intelligently on technologies to improve the health and productivity of their employees."

Rick resides in The Greater Philadelphia area with his wife and four children where he has been known to warble a tune now and again.

Advisory Board

Alan Guy

Alan earned his BS at Samford University and his MBA at The George Washington University. He completed a 25-year career as a hospital and health system CEO at Covenant Health, a 10 hospital fully integrated health system located in Knoxville, Tennessee. For the last 17 years, he has served the healthcare industry as a consultant in strategic planning, executive coaching and search, and in client retention for several healthcare related companies. He now serves as Chairman of the 4C Corporate Advisory Board. Alan focused a great deal of his executive tenure building a fully integrated health system in Knoxville at Covenant Health, an organization that included nine acute care hospitals, a freestanding psychiatric hospital, three HMO/Managed Care Organizations, integrated physician practices, and other health-related services. He served on the board of VHA, a NYSE Med-Mal insurance company, and other health associations and organizations. He is convinced that 4C is on the threshold of becoming a major impact player in the great debate about the reform and transformation of the healthcare industry. While the elimination of fraud and abuse will be a tremendous benefit to the US healthcare industry, he is confident that the continuing impact of the data collected in the course of business will potentially be the greatest source of current data that is so sorely needed to make foundational changes in the healthcare delivery system.

Sheri Kaiserman

Sheri Kaiserman is Head of Advanced Securities at Wedbush Securities. She has over 25 years of experience in capital markets with a unique understanding of the coming disruptive and transformative aspects of bitcoin/blockchain technology. She was awarded the “Excellence in Leadership” award from Trader Magazine in 2012, was a top 10 finalist Executive of the Year nominee at the 2010 Los Angeles Business Journal sponsored event, "Women Making a Difference" and has been a guest on CNBC’s Squawk on the Street.

Dave Chase

Dave earned his BS degree from the University of Washington and spent his early consulting years in the healthcare practice of Anderson Consulting in the IT sector. Changing employers, he helped to develop the early healthcare products of Microsoft. He also was involved in several Internet-based startups where he drew the conclusion that “healthcare is where Internet startups go to die.” He avoided the healthcare industry for several years, but could not resist the temptation to return to the chaos and turmoil that the ACA created. He returned to help develop outcomes/value-based models that he felt were sorely needed in the industry and in public policy. Some described Dave as a provocateur when he presented the often-watched Ted speech on “What healthcare has done to America.” Dave insists that the blame game between all players in the healthcare industry must stop in order for these players to come together to fix the “seriously rigged” revenue cycle of healthcare. He hopes to help healthcare providers avoid the same mistakes in their industry that newspapers made by missing the digital media phenomenon. He believes that fraud detection and prevention is a very important issue but is only the tip of the iceberg. Ultimately, he feels that the results being produced by the U.S. healthcare system are embarrassing for the amount of money being spent. He encourages 4C to look for complementary partners to develop a new model of employee benefit programs. He also feels that 4C must be media savvy to effectively get the message out and give people and organizations a clear course of action to solve their problems.

Duane Gibson

Duane received his BS degree from Bowling Green State University, his LLM (with distinction) from Georgetown University Law Center, and his JD from Case Western Reserve University School of Law. He is a Principal in The Livingston Group and has built a very impressive career as a lobbyist with a deep and broad contact base in Washington. He previously served as a senior staff member for four committees in the U.S. House where he demonstrated legislatively that he can “write it, discuss it, frame it, and get it into law.” He looks forward to helping 4C negotiate its way through the “Washington healthcare policy quagmire” which hopefully will help remove the disincentive to do the right thing from federal policies. He is confident that, with the help of 4C, national healthcare policy leaders will be able to construct a health care cost containment system that companies and the government will be able to use to reduce growth trends and promote wellness in the public and private workforce. Duane cautions that 4C must work very hard to produce “as advertised” to the business and governmental community. The work product of 4C must produce verified and understood information that can be used to identify ineffective providers that must be avoided and, conversely, select effective ones that should be embraced.

Meredith Karney, MHA, MS, RD

Meredith is Vice President of Health Economics and Value at the Center for Medical Interoperability. She leads the Center’s efforts to analyze economic and qualitative implications of data interoperability and to develop opportunities for value creation across the US healthcare sector. Prior to joining the Center, Meredith led healthcare research and project engagements for Professor Michael Porter at the Institute for Strategy and Competitiveness at the Harvard Business School. She partnered with innovative providers and payers to design value-based healthcare delivery and reimbursement models and developed processes to enable improved operational and clinical healthcare outcomes in coordination with the International Consortium for Health Outcomes Measurement. Previously, Meredith led cost measurement projects at the Medical University of South Carolina that piloted time-driven activity-based cost accounting frameworks and designed and negotiated bundled pricing models. She is a Registered Dietitian and worked and trained in clinical nutrition at Emory Healthcare. Meredith holds a Master of Health Administration and Management from the Medical University of South Carolina and a Master of Science from Georgia State University. Meredith is excited about the opportunity to help 4C improve the accuracy and timeliness of financial transactions while translating successful fraud prevention work from financial services to the healthcare marketplace. She is passionate about changing antiquated business models in healthcare and is committed to working to undo perverse and misaligned incentives that are so prevalent in the industry today. She hopes that 4C will be able to avoid being locked into the provider/payer/vendor culture that is so powerful in the industry today. She is convinced that the company is capable of building trust, which doesn’t exist now, through data and pathways by removing fraud and building a new and useful healthcare scoring system.

David Nash, M.D.

Dr. Nash earned his undergraduate degree from Vassar in economics and his medical training at the Medical School of the University of Rochester. He was a Robert Wood Johnson Clinical Scholar at the Horton School of Business where he earned his MBA in healthcare. He currently serves as Dean of the College of Population Health at the Thomas Jefferson University. Dr. Nash puts an interesting spin on the subject of waste in healthcare, concluding that “one person’s waste is another person’s income.” He feels that ultimately, fraud will be a reasonably easy solution to find but waste drives the industry crazy, since the private practice of medicine is simply responding to the incentives in the current healthcare system. He and his colleagues are currently diving deeper into the elimination of waste especially in regard to the unexplained variations in healthcare delivery. He hopes to contribute to the work that 4C is doing to produce information that will challenge employers once they know how much money they are wasting. He is passionate about removing anything that is harmful to patients in this equation and he expects that 4C will help the industry reallocate the resources that are currently being expended. He notes that the US healthcare system is number 17 in worldwide results while being number one in spending and he looks forward to the opportunity to help improve that performance.

Jack Hoban

Jack earned his undergraduate degree in political science and an MBA from Villanova. He has the distinction of being a trained helicopter pilot as well as a Subject Matter Expert for the U.S. Marine Corps Martial Arts Program. He has authored four books and is a frequent speaker to business, military, and law enforcement audiences on ethics, martial arts, values, and conflict resolution. He is a 25 year business veteran and owns his own company (ARMC Financial Services) and has extensive experience in IT and Business Process Outsourcing in healthcare as well as other industries. He is skilled in C-suite sales and revenue cycle management. His company works extensively with insurance companies and TPA organizations for denials review and resolution. He is passionate about seeing that providers receive complete, accurate, and timely payments for the clinical care they deliver. He is convinced that 4C has a great opportunity to help remove fraud and abuse from healthcare, similar to the way that Visa did for the financial services industry. He is convinced that the current financial disarray in the healthcare industry presents a perfect opportunity for criminals to pilfer billions of dollars from the American business/governmental community during the process of paying for claims allegedly incurred for covered lives that they are responsible for.

Robert Hurt

Former Congressman Hurt earned his BA at Hampden-Sydney College and his JD from Mississippi College School of Law. He practiced law in Chatham, Virginia and represented that region in the Virginia House of Delegates as well as the Senate of Virginia. He served three terms as the U.S. representative for the fifth Congressional District of Virginia in the U.S. House of Representatives. He currently serves Liberty University as the Vice President of the Center for Law and Government. Robert strongly believes that much of the huge U.S. deficit is largely due to what is spent on healthcare in this country. He advocates that the U.S. Congress must get its financial house in order for progress to be made in this critical segment of national healthcare policy. He brings to the Advisory Board a strong contact base with business CEOs of Virginia companies. He is disappointed in feeling that consumers, government, and business leaders have only recently developed a modest interest in reducing healthcare spending. He is convinced that incentives must be developed to deliver and pay for excellent healthcare that are aligned between patients and providers, and not insurance/TPA interests, that he describes as the most powerful lobby in Washington.

Dr. Ron Loeppke, MPH, FACOEM, FACPM

Dr. Ron Loeppke, MD, MPH, FACOEM, FACPM is Vice-Chairman of U.S. Preventive Medicine (USPM), and serves as co-chair of the company’s International Advisory Board. He has over 30 years of clinical and physician executive experience. He is Board Certified in Preventive Medicine, Fellowship trained in Occupational Medicine, and is a Fellow of both the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine and the American College of Preventive Medicine. He is also Chairman of the Center for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health National Diabetes Education Program.

L.J. (Mac) McCarthy, FSA, FCA, MAAA

L.J. “Mac” McCarthy, FSA, FCA, MAAA is the President of McCarthy Actuarial Consulting, combining the discipline of actuarial science with extensive experience and a reputation for integrity to help employers, health plans and researchers find innovative solutions to health and welfare issues. He has more than 35 years of health and welfare actuarial experience, with about 25 years advising employers and plans on the development and financial management of innovative programs. Before founding McCarthy Actuarial Consulting, he was a principal and national resource at Mercer Health & Benefits.

Darryl Strawberry

Darryl Strawberry is a legendary former Major League Baseball right fielder, who played 17 seasons with the New York Mets, New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers, and San Francisco Giants, and was an eight-time MLB All-Star. Strawberry is the co-founder of the Darryl Strawberry Recovery Center in Orlando, Fla. He currently serves as an Advisory Board Member of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Substance Abuse Mental Health Services Administration. He is also a New York Times best-selling author. Strawberry plays an instrumental role in helping 4C prevent fraudulent access to prescription opioids which are a gateway to heroin addiction.


4C has achieved full accreditation with the Financial Services Accreditation Program (FSAP) from the Electronic Healthcare Network Accreditation Commission (EHNAC). This demonstrates that 4C adheres to strict criteria in a range of areas, particularly concerning processing payments and other financial transactions, and HIPAA security and privacy rules.